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# L484 Team Meeting — 2026-08-14 (Readout)
Foresight Institute visit recap; team additions (Jessie, Gambino); **Kyle's accounting program**; revenue pivot; **Avi publicly praised ("great job programming")**.
## 1. Decisions
| decision | who | date |
|---|---|---|
| **Foresight Institute (Berlin)**: "this place should be funded by a non-profit" — we agree; he'll "call my friend after this, and we're going to make it happen"; they met Blaze & Collette in Europe; opened a location in **San Diego**, want one here; need our help (data, mesh networks, security) | Poly / Jay | 2026-08-14 |
| **Naomi Brockwell** invited to speak at **SolarPunk Summit + Web5 World Fair** (via Foresight); she texted back — "they're on those kind of talking terms" | Poly | 2026-08-14 |
| **Jessie joins team** — ex co-op food worker; leads **Divine Provisions**; 3-way model: (1) members submit grocery wants → wholesale pallet if enough demand; (2) **local farms on consignment** (pay only when used, huge discount); (3) always-stock items (raw milk, "Fore of Nature" meats); vending machines for easy-stock items | Poly | 2026-08-14 |
| **Gambino** (ex Stardust Garage manager; NC venue background; legal-matrix + venue + creative + tech): invited to **move his tiny home into the back between the yellow houses** (Tuesday) — "we didn't ask you first — sorry"; works Solarpunk Summit (trade); can act as back-area security; Kyle: hesitant until things are stable, "he might have to move right away" — he's OK with it | Poly / Kyle / Jay | 2026-08-14 |
| **Bus moves Wednesday** (after Gambino's tiny home Tuesday) | Jay1 | 2026-08-14 |
| **Hope Art Park event** (Austin art institution; giant concrete sculpture people paint on; building spells HOPE from above; the O = perfectly resonant whisper circle): **sound bath at night, meditation, Lunarpunk ideals** — "going through different concepts" | Jay2 | 2026-08-14 |
| **Radiant Hearts festival booth** (Dec 4-6; rebrand of the tantra festival; privacy/security-concerned market — "they want to buy these phones; I want a server tomorrow"): team = **Stephanie, Jen, Eliza** | Poly | 2026-08-14 |
| **SolLunar short-term plan**: until the lease, team touches in to activate gifts; **Haven planning October launch (right after Solarpunk Summit)**; **Solarpunk Sessions free/low-cost under Sapien Center**; 1 event/week to promote membership + vet facilitators for membership; Mimi (Maison Palo Santo) on the books; **Sept 16: Vocal [?] concert at Stardust → here the next day**; superficial space changes → launch party → carry Summit momentum | Angel | 2026-08-14 |
| **Weekly rhythm**: lab programming **Mon-Wed**; **Thurs-Sat = Solarpunk**; **Sunday = church** (don't schedule) | Poly | 2026-08-14 |
| **Aesthetic Church**: excited to be here; **put up lights** (photo to group; need a few people to help); **drapery idea** (currently fabric barriers, working for now) — maybe under SolLunar not the church | Poly / Jen | 2026-08-14 |
| **Space concept**: "think about the space and come up with a concept and not hodge-podge it together"; need a rendering; Haven ready to take action | Angel / Jen | 2026-08-14 |
| **Noderunner shop breaking ground "really soon"**; **Hakeem broke a rib** (accident) — out for a while; sent a **$50 affiliate coupon code to sellers + 20% of sale to the lab** — "most generous agreement we've ever had" | Poly | 2026-08-14 |
| **Yellow-house equipment sort**: computers/hard drives/laptops (stored in Noderunner) → **move to back yellow house**; **Ali + Allen organize**; sellable items → thermal bag + label → shop inventory; keep/use/broken → back there (strip for parts) | Poly / Ali / Allen | 2026-08-14 |
| **Power at the location**: **200 amps into the lot, 100 to each house** (Ali); "power additions would help out a lot"; "Ali. Let's just do it and ask questions later" | Poly / Ali | 2026-08-14 |
| **Network**: have an **8-gig [plan] but getting 2MB** (Allen: "not half a gig"); "blipping like crazy yesterday"; **need to transition to a more stable system; contact provider** (Ali) | Ali / Allen / Kyle | 2026-08-14 |
| **Ozone machine** in the back house: automatic off-switch; front fumigated, then ozone under the house; **a cat lives under the house** | Poly / Ali | 2026-08-14 |
| **Guest/hostel policy**: **3-day guest policy** (non-member/non-staff, if available); hostel room = bunks, **limit 3 days/week**; project travelers get the **steward room**; tracked via **the cards** (payment system); "contingent on contributing to the house" (checklist exists); **Dawei holds the default** when we're not using it | Poly / Kyle / Jen | 2026-08-14 |
| **City grants**: hostel room "would open up city grants" (Kyle) | Kyle | 2026-08-14 |
| **Accounting program (Kyle, the big one)**: sitting down with **each person** for an accounting session — contributions, money in, "it only exists in Poly's head"; Blaze on board; Kyle here until Saturday, then next Wed/Thurs-Sat/Sun; "I will come find you. **This is not a joke anymore. The amount of money we're handling is exposing us to fraud.**"; target **majority done by end of month**; "the questions from our investors are making us look stupid and pretty when they ask" | Kyle | 2026-08-14 |
| **20-acre property (alternative to Delano)**: 10 acres selling; open to a lease; **$4,500 total rent for two houses on 20 acres**; 20-30 min drive (halfway to Reimagine Ranch); 7BR; **2 additional power hookups, already wired**; short-term lease option (3 months + re-evaluate + put something down) — investigating | Kyle | 2026-08-14 |
| **Zaza status**: left the group chat quietly; "everything's fine" — left most groups to focus (Archipelago takes a lot of his energy); "what's happening here is so special and it's exactly where I'm meant to be; the world doesn't even know what this group is doing" | Poly | 2026-08-14 |
| **Archipelago rollout**: **installing Archipelago servers daily**; latest image not public-download yet but "we can use it here"; **3 upstairs already**; Jay installed 2 servers this week; latest release in use | Poly | 2026-08-14 |
| **Trust meeting coming up soon**; a trust member: trust is happy but **wants more involvement** + wants **the Trust itself more organized**; "they want to help, they don't know how; they need better communication"; "most of us are Trust members — look at ourselves first" (Blaze had the same conversation) | Poly / Kyle | 2026-08-14 |
| **Fast Friends**: **lease signed**; building out the basement; **first 2 investors**; **incorporating under GeoGRO**; GeoGRO hopefully funded (bunker + supply plan); FF = another member event space + **a node** (logistics TBD, Dave supportive, "very heart-centered") | Jen | 2026-08-14 |
| **Resilience Design Center**: still in works; looking for another property; **not working with the tiny-home manufacturer we thought** — need other partners (shouldn't be hard, takes time) | Jen | 2026-08-14 |
| **Housing**: in works TBD; **if we need to get moved Sept 15, we'll have a spot, "way better than the one we have now"** | Jen / Kyle | 2026-08-14 |
| **Revenue pivot**: "the lab is not a location" (Allen: "We are the lab"); worst case = Nava House ("we're not going away; Archipelago is not going back in the box"); **everyone must bring in revenue**; electricity short → **prioritize paying customers**; lab expenses include facilities; **events at SolLunar cost something** (not free); **lab gets 40% of whatever happens at SolLunar**; **50/50 partner between Poly and Angel** on SolLunar; "any money that goes into this ecosystem comes back to us"; sell everything (vending, food, servers, bootcamps); **Above Phone: Hakeem intends to pay us to do all the programming — you get paid ~$30-50 to program a phone**; **stop giving everything away for free** ("we don't need to convince people of our value") | Poly | 2026-08-14 |
| **Food spend**: use **Jay for all food/drinks** (co-op); team spending daily outside = "a waste"; "David Doughie's is worth it, but even P. Terry's is too expensive"; "work toward solutions and don't add criticism toward each other" | Poly | 2026-08-14 |
| **Recognition**: "I also **Avi, great job programming all the stuff you have**"; "the phone app you made for Jay was very impressive" (Poly) | Poly | 2026-08-14 |
| **Shadrach + Zaza in Madeira**; Shadrach has no money (borrowing from his daughter); "we're still building this system"; **own chips with Archipelago logo printed on them** | Poly | 2026-08-14 |
| **Mandatory viewing**: watch **Silicon Valley** — one episode every meeting ("the problems we are facing are not unique to us"); "people meet us and say you are the Pied Piper" | Poly | 2026-08-14 |
| **Terminology**: LunarPunk culture → the word for weed going forward is **"Moon Cabbage"** | Poly | 2026-08-14 |
**Cross-check vs 06-DECISIONS:**
- **Contradiction check — 40/60 vs 50/50**: 8-10/7-27 established Noderunner shop = Poly/Hakeem/Eliza/Asif 25% each (Poly → Trust). 8-14 states **SolLunar = "50/50 partner between Poly and Angel"** + **lab gets 40% of SolLunar revenue**. These are different scopes (whole SolLunar entity vs the shop), but the 40% lab cut + 50/50 split is **new and not previously recorded** — flag for the operating agreement (Angel's open item from 8-10).
- Consistent with 8-10: Jessie → Divine Provisions; lease still pending; Solarpunk Sessions; Haven's October launch planning; Aesthetic Church lights.
- Consistent with 7-27: Hakeem partnership (now with concrete affiliate terms + programming fee); yellow-house equipment; cards track hostel stays.
- **New hard numbers**: 200A lot / 100A per house; 8-gig plan delivering 2MB; $4,500/20 acres (2 houses); $30-50/phone programming fee; Sept 15 housing deadline; Dec 4-6 Radiant Hearts.
- Gambino's tiny home + bus move (Wed) — new logistics.
- FF **lease signed** (7-17 said "essentially done" — now confirmed) + incorporating under GeoGRO + 2 investors.
## 2. Action Items
| owner | task | due date | project | status |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Foresight contact | Call "my friend" to make the non-profit funding happen | after visit | L484 / Funding | scheduled |
| Angel | SolarPunk Summit + Web5 World Fair: Naomi Brockwell speaking (confirm) | pre-Summit | L484 / Events | scheduled |
| Jessie | Lead Divine Provisions (3-way model + vending) | ongoing | Divine Provisions | assigned |
| Gambino | Move tiny home between yellow houses | **Tuesday (8-18?)** | Housing / Sapien | scheduled |
| Gambino | Work Solarpunk Summit (the "trade"); back-area security | Summit | Solarpunk Summit | assigned |
| Jay1 | Move the bus | **Wednesday** | Sapien / Bus | scheduled |
| Jay2 | Hope Art Park event (sound bath, meditation, Lunarpunk) — concepts | NO DATE | L484 / Events | open |
| Stephanie / Jen / Eliza | Radiant Hearts festival booth (phones, servers) | **Dec 4-6** | L484 / Sales | scheduled |
| Haven | October launch planning (post-Summit) | October | SolLunar / Launch | in progress |
| Angel | Solarpunk Sessions (1/week; Mimi Sept 1; Sept 16 Vocal [?]) | Sept 1 + | SolLunar / Events | scheduled |
| team | Aesthetic Church lights (photo to group; "need a few people") | NO DATE | Sapien / Aesthetic | open |
| team | Drapery decision (SolLunar vs church branding) | NO DATE | Sapien / Space | open |
| team | Space concept + rendering | pre-launch | SolLunar / Space | open |
| Ali + Allen | Sort yellow-house equipment → back house; thermal-bag + label sellable items | soon | Noderunner / Inventory | in progress |
| Ali | Power additions ("200A lot / 100A per house"); "let's just do it and ask questions later" | NO DATE | Sapien / Electric | open |
| Ali | Contact provider — transition network to stable system (8-gig → getting 2MB) | NO DATE | Sapien / Network | open |
| team | Ozone machine (auto off-switch; front fumigated → under-house); mind the cat | NO DATE | Sapien / Air quality | open |
| team | Router access point (back house) | NO DATE | Sapien / Network | open |
| **Kyle** | **Accounting sessions with each person** (contributions/money in; "exists only in Poly's head") | **end of month** | L484 / Accounting | in progress |
| Kyle | 20-acre property: investigate (7BR, 2 wired hookups, $4,500, short-term lease option) | NO DATE | Housing / Delano exit | open |
| team | Trust: ways to get members more organized/involved; communication | pre-trust meeting | Trust | open |
| Jen | FF: build out basement; node logistics with Dave; GeoGRO incorporation | ongoing | Fast Friends / GeoGRO | in progress |
| Jen | Resilience Design Center: find other tiny-home partners + property | NO DATE | Resilience Design Center | open |
| Jen | Housing: spot ready if move needed **Sept 15** | **2026-09-15** | Housing | in progress |
| team | Sell everything (vending, food, servers, bootcamps); prioritize paying customers (electricity short) | ongoing | Revenue | open |
| Poly + Hakeem | Above Phone programming contracts (~$30-50/phone) | when Hakeem back | Above Phone | queued (Hakeem out — rib) |
| team | Stop giving free; shift food spend to co-op (Jay) | ongoing | Ops | open |
| team | Watch Silicon Valley — one episode every meeting | every meeting | Culture | ongoing |
| UNASSIGNED | "Need more shovels" | now | Sapien / Grounds | open |
| UNASSIGNED | Who keeps track of hostel/steward room (calendar doesn't exist; Dawei default) | NO DATE | Housing | open |
## 3. Project Links
- **SolLunar / SoLunar Society** (existing) → 50/50 Poly-Angel; lab 40% cut; Sessions; October launch
- **Solarpunk Summit / Web5 World Fair** (existing) → Naomi Brockwell; Tech Day (8-17); Hope Art Park
- **Foresight Institute** (new external) → Berlin; San Diego location; non-profit funding path; data/mesh/security help
- **Divine Provisions** (existing) → Jessie; 3-way model; consignment
- **Fast Friends / GeoGRO** (existing) → lease signed; basement build; incorporating; node
- **Resilience Design Center** (existing) → partner search
- **Radiant Hearts** (new external) → Dec 4-6 booth
- **Hope Art Park** (new external) → art + sound bath event
- **20-acre property (Reimagine Ranch corridor)** (new candidate) → Delano alternative
- **Noderunner shop / Above Phone (Hakeem)** (existing) → ground-breaking; affiliate 20% + $50 codes; programming fee
- Keynctr ([[keynctr 1]]) — not mentioned; **Avi present + publicly praised**
## 4. Knowledge
- **Foresight Institute**: Berlin; "helping Nobel Laureates get funding for decades"; started in the 80s; offices everywhere; funding/incubating startups; team "looks just like us — a version of Blaze, Poly, and event person"; Christine (credited with coining "open source") teared up at the Web5 song; "most closely aligned" of all places visited; Angel independently connected with them weeks ago.
- **Naomi Brockwell**: on talking terms with Foresight; invited to Summit + Web5 World Fair.
- **Gambino**: ex Stardust Garage manager; NC venue; legal-matrix + venue ops + creative + tech background; "pretty aligned on almost everything"; tiny home; investor connections.
- **Hope Art Park**: Austin institution; giant concrete sculpture (paint-on); building spells HOPE from above; the O = "perfectly resonant circle" (whisper inside, anyone hears).
- **Radiant Hearts**: rebrand of the tantra festival; Dec 4-6; privacy/security market; "multiple connections at the tantra festival."
- **200 amps into the lot, 100 to each house** (power baseline).
- **Network reality**: 8-gig plan delivering 2MB (Allen: "not half a gig"); blipping.
- **Ozone plan**: auto off-switch; cat under the house.
- **3-day guest policy**: non-members/staff, if available; hostel bunks 3 days/week; steward room for project travelers; cards track + pay; contribution checklist; Dawei default.
- **City grants** possible via hostel room (Kyle).
- **Kyle's accounting**: "the amount of money we're handling is exposing us to fraud"; investor questions "making us look stupid and pretty"; schedule: here until Saturday, then Wed/Thurs-Sat/Sun next week.
- **20-acre property**: $4,500 rent for two houses on 20 acres; 7BR; 2 wired power hookups; 20-30 min; short-term lease option.
- **Zaza**: stepped back from groups to focus on Archipelago; "exactly where I'm meant to be"; not a conflict.
- **Archipelago**: daily server installs; 3 upstairs; Jay's 2 this week; own logo-printed chips; not public-download yet.
- **Trust**: wants involvement + organization; "look at ourselves first" (most of us are members).
- **FF**: lease signed; basement build; 2 investors; incorporating under GeoGRO; bunker + supply plan; Dave = "very heart-centered."
- **Housing deadline**: **Sept 15** move contingency ("way better than the one we have now").
- **Revenue math**: lab 40% of SolLunar; Poly/Angel 50/50 on SolLunar; $30-50/phone programming; paying-customer priority (electricity).
- **Above Phone**: Hakeem (rib) sends $50 affiliate codes + 20% of sale to lab; "most generous agreement we've ever had."
- **Mandatory viewing**: Silicon Valley, one episode per meeting.
- **"Moon Cabbage"** = the word for weed going forward (LunarPunk terminology).
- **Shadrach + Zaza**: Madeira; Shadrach borrowing from his daughter; building continues.
- **Avi**: "great job programming all the stuff you have"; "the phone app you made for Jay was very impressive" (Poly) — public recognition.
- **Apollo**: "The lab is not a location." / Allen: "We are the lab."
## 5. Troubleshooting
- **Electricity shortage** — fix: prioritize paying customers; power additions (Ali, 200A lot / 100A per house baseline).
- **Network 8-gig → 2MB** — fix: Ali contacts provider; transition to stable system; router AP for back house.
- **Contributions "only exist in Poly's head"** — fix: Kyle's one-on-one accounting sessions by end of month; fraud exposure acknowledged.
- **Trust disengagement** — fix: organization + communication plan before trust meeting; "look at ourselves first."
- **Delano exit uncertainty** — fix: 20-acre property (short-term lease option) + Sept 15 housing contingency.
- **Hakeem out (rib)** — fix: affiliate terms still flow ($50 codes + 20%); programming contracts queued until he's back.
- **Space hodge-podge risk** — fix: concept + rendering (tools exist: one machine limited, one in test, Eagle capable; 80-90% accuracy) before buying.
- **Free-giving habit** — fix: stop; co-op food (Jay); "we don't need to convince people of our value anymore."
## 6. Open Questions
- Will Foresight's "friend" call actually produce non-profit funding?
- Is the SolLunar 50/50 (Poly/Angel) + 40% lab cut consistent with the shop's 25%-each split (7-27)? (Scoping question for the operating agreement.)
- What's the stable network provider + when?
- Will the accounting sessions finish by month-end, and what do the books show?
- Is the 20-acre property viable (site visit? terms?)?
- Who staffs/tracks the hostel (calendar doesn't exist)?
- When is the Hope Art Park event (concepts only)?
- What's the bus's new spot (Wednesday move — to where exactly)?
- Will the Sept 15 housing spot materialize?
- Who are the new Resilience Design Center tiny-home partners?
## 7. Gaps
- **SolLunar operating agreement**: 50/50 + 40% cut stated verbally; not documented (Angel's 8-10 open item).
- **Power additions**: no scope, no budget, no electrician schedule beyond "Ali."
- **Network provider**: no candidate named.
- **Hope Art Park**: no date, no budget, no owner beyond Jay2's concepts.
- **Hostel ops**: no calendar, no staff owner.
- **Accounting**: target date (end of month) but no per-person schedule published.
- **20-acre property**: no site-visit record, no terms sheet.
- **Bus destination**: unstated.
## 8. My Follow-Ups (Avi)
1. **Accounting session with Kyle** — this is now a named, scheduled, non-optional program ("I will come find you"). Given the 7-27 note that Avi carries a lot of IOU transactions, **prepare all transaction history/receipts before Kyle's session**. Highest-urgency Avi item across the corpus.
2. **"Great job programming all the stuff you have"** + **the phone app for Jay** — Poly's public recognition. If there's a follow-on (app maintenance, Jay's co-op ordering use case "we could be using Jay for all our food and drinks"), that's an open thread to claim.
3. **NFC card mission (October)** — still unowned beyond Pat's budget; Avi's programming is now publicly recognized, making this a credible offer. [INFERRED]
4. **Network stability (8-gig → 2MB)** — provider contact is Ali's, but a second technical pair of hands on the "blipping" is plausible. [INFERRED]
5. **Archipelago rollout** (daily server installs; latest image not public yet) — if Avi is on the lab server side, staying on the latest image is a small recurring task.
## Email Summary
8-14 opened on the high of the Foresight Institute visit — the Berlin collective (Nobel-laureate funding, San Diego location, a team "like a version of Blaze, Poly, and the event person") declared the space should be non-profit funded and said they'd make it happen, and Naomi Brockwell is now coming to SolarPunk Summit and the Web5 World Fair. Two new people joined: Jessie (Divine Provisions, running a three-way wholesale/consignment/always-stock model) and Gambino (Stardust Garage manager, tiny home landing between the yellow houses Tuesday, bus moving Wednesday, Summit work as the trade). The week's structural news: the lease is still the blocker; the short-term plan is weekly Solarpunk Sessions (Mimi Sept 1, Vocal Sept 16), Haven's October launch build, Aesthetic Church lights, and a space concept with renderings before anyone buys anything. Operationally: the yellow-house equipment gets sorted (Ali + Allen), power is 200A into the lot / 100A per house with additions owed, the 8-gig internet is delivering 2MB and needs a provider change, the ozone machine runs with a cat under the house, and the hostel gets a 3-day guest policy tracked by the cards. The heaviest item is Kyle's accounting program — one-on-one sessions with everyone, end of month, because "the amount of money we're handling is exposing us to fraud" and investor questions are "making us look stupid and pretty." Housing has a Sept 15 contingency ("way better than the one we have now") and a 20-acre, $4,500, two-wired-hookup alternative in play. Fast Friends' lease is signed and it's incorporating under GeoGRO with two investors; the revenue pivot is explicit — the lab takes 40% of SolLunar, Poly and Angel run it 50/50, phones program at $30-50 each, and we stop giving things away. Poly closed by naming names: Kyle as the builder, and Avi — "great job programming all the stuff you have... the phone app you made for Jay was very impressive." Mandatory viewing: Silicon Valley, one episode per meeting. And the new word for weed is Moon Cabbage.